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#81 mik

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 09:28 AM

If you have about nine years to waste, this is another brilliant example of IGN turning the clinically insane loose on the Internet:

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1061961p1.html
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 09:36 AM

IGN doesn't deserve any clicks.

Daemon generates enough as it is whenever he puts up diatribes about how awful the Wii is.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 09:42 AM

Then I'll spare you the guilt and just share a representative sample with you:

It's hard to realize whether you've just strung together four kicks or three, with a new chain starting on the fourth kick command, when the camera is zoomed back and angels are swirling around you. This might simply be an issue of readability; in the same way a reader might complain about Faulkner being inscrutable to a literal-minded reader.


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Posted 20 January 2010 - 10:03 AM

I can't believe I read that, with a new phrase starting wherever it wants, when the author is such a tool and can't make up their mind about anything. This might simply be an issue of illiteracy; in the same way a reader might complain about Dr. Seuss making analogies that might make sense. What?
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:46 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I really enjoy reading IGN these days. Maybe it's because I've gotten to "know" the personalities of the writers through the podcasts, so I understand where they're coming from -- even if I don't agree with their opinions sometimes.

Personally, I love Mike Thomsen's writings, because he hates everything.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 12:39 PM

"...in the same way a reader might complain about Faulkner being inscrutable to a literal-minded reader."

"My mother is a fish." Even that sentence/chapter from Faulkner makes more sense than that entire article
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:05 PM

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:40 PM

I love the way he starts the article.

I went to an IFP event in 2007 where the director and former beauty queen Karen Moncrieff recalled how many of her male screenwriting colleagues told her they often masturbate while writing. The act of creating something for a man, by nature disallowed the experience of childbirth, can easily cross into the realm of the sexual.


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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:58 PM

Totally. Especially since he then proceeds to jerk himself off for 1500 words.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 06:13 PM

"My mother is a fish." Even that sentence/chapter from Faulkner makes more sense than that entire article

Is that like Fish Story or something?


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Posted 21 January 2010 - 12:12 AM

It really scares me people like him and Tim Rogers have fans.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:42 AM

Totally. Especially since he then proceeds to jerk himself off for 1500 words.


lol... I started skimming it after reading a couple of paragraphs. I started to wonder if this was meant to appeal to the "mature gamer"?

But the overwhelming sense is that it was written for snickers around the office with the various double entendres throughout... since clearly more thought was put there than anywhere else.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:25 AM

Is that like Fish Story or something?

Similar, but at the same time totally and completely different.

lol... I started skimming it after reading a couple of paragraphs. I started to wonder if this was meant to appeal to the "mature gamer"

I started to wonder if it might appeal to gamers similar to the Faulkner character that I quoted.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:40 AM

You guys should really see Fish Story. That movie is awesome. <3
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:48 PM

This is why I haven't read a videogame article in quite some time. I prefer to hear people talk about things instead. Though that often pisses me off equally as much.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 04:34 PM

I don't think I've ever read an article on any video game site. Maybe a few paragraphs in a review, but not much. Strange, considering I read every single word in an EGM.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:27 PM

This is why I haven't read a videogame article in quite some time. I prefer to hear people talk about things instead. Though that often pisses me off equally as much.

What do you listen to?


Tell me so I can make a list of all the annoying things they say and ruin them for you.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:59 AM

From Kotaku today:

"With the father surviving the viscous attack and the son safely in police custody, we can on to the message woven into this story."

That was one thick, sticky attack!
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:41 PM

I unleashed a viscous attack on my wife's chin last night. Fear my ropey vengeance!
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:59 PM

God damn you, mik.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:52 PM

What do you listen to?


Tell me so I can make a list of all the annoying things they say and ruin them for you.


The amount of podcasts I listen to is ridiculous...though the number of gaming related podcasts included in that is dwindling. I quit listening to the Giant Bombcast a while ago, Gamers with Jobs are on their third strike, the Joystiq podcast is complete garbage and so on. Other than gaming I listen to a lot of tech and science podcasts.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:53 PM

I quit listening to the Giant Bombcast a while ago

That was your first mistake.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:06 PM

I've never actually listened to it.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:28 PM

That was your first mistake.


No, its terrible. To find their opinions of something one must simply think of the consensus and then attach even more bullshit to it and you will arrive somewhere in the vicinity of what they or mostly Gerstman probably thinks. Hence that I don't have to listen to it.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:54 PM

Then I'll spare you the guilt and just share a representative sample with you:



Haha, and I thought *I* was pretentious.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:49 AM

No, its terrible. To find their opinions of something one must simply think of the consensus and then attach even more bullshit to it and you will arrive somewhere in the vicinity of what they or mostly Gerstman probably thinks. Hence that I don't have to listen to it.

Yeah, it's a pretty terrible podcast. Even Three Red Lights is better.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:36 AM

I really like the Bombcast guys. They have more personality than most people doing video game podcasts and their tastes align with mine more often than not. The biggest downside is that they are all in agreement way too often and they tend to be dismissive of a lot of things before trying them.

I think some of you primary PS3 players just don't like them because they talk about "points" too much :)
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:40 AM

Actually I don't like them because they're often quite stupid and people deify them. I could care less about their biases.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:21 AM

Yeah, it's a pretty terrible podcast. Even Three Red Lights is better.


I LOVE the Giant Bomcast (listening to this week right now actually). Three Red Lights is great though. Granted, TRL usually doesn't talk about games. I enjoy IGN's three main podcasts a lot. TRL, Podcast Beyond, and Scoop. Nintendo Voice Chat has its ups and downs - it's getting better.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 04:07 PM

If you have about nine years to waste, this is another brilliant example of IGN turning the clinically insane loose on the Internet:

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1061961p1.html


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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:27 PM

Actually I don't like them because they're often quite stupid and people deify them. I could care less about their biases.


We're all often quite stupid. We're all often quite smart.

And you're old enough to know better than to let other people's views influence your own. "Other people think they rock TOO much" isn't much of a reason not to like something...
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 06:15 AM

We're all often quite stupid. We're all often quite smart.

And you're old enough to know better than to let other people's views influence your own. "Other people think they rock TOO much" isn't much of a reason not to like something...

That doesn't make them entertaining to me at all. You're old enough to realize that different people have different tastes... ;)

@beau - What's going on with Nintendo Voice Chat? Last time I listened to an episode it was Matt and Bozon showing off how they were in the Kool Kids™ club. They also made it quite clear that both of them actually had numeric scores in mind before even playing a game.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:21 AM

That doesn't make them entertaining to me at all. You're old enough to realize that different people have different tastes... ;)


I understand that completely. I just thought the "other people deify them" argument was weak for your standards. That's it.

And honestly, I kind of felt the same way when it first started on me, but they've really grown on me over the past two years. And I never really liked the Gamespot podcasts.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:11 AM

I understand that completely. I just thought the "other people deify them" argument was weak for your standards. That's it.

Actually it's core to my skeptical nature. When people deify or oversell something/someone my skepticism shoots through the roof. People in what I call the Trader Joe Cult, the Harris Teeter Cult or The Lost/Wire Cults are prefect examples in my recent past. My wife is brilliant. She approaches me like this: "this [insert product here] is decent. What do you think?" "Holy shit honey, it's the best thing since lesbian porn!"
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:03 PM

You should check out The Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast Wenny, if you like science and aren't particularly religious.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:44 PM

You should check out The Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast Wenny, if you like science and aren't particularly religious.

I'll check it out!
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 11:36 PM

This isn't a copy-edit issue but Jesus this shit pisses me off:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1065686p1.html

The whole interview is peppered with so much failure by Matt Casamaassina, but worse of all is this:

IGN: Well, everything's more hidden, for starters. If I tune into Xbox Live, I've got my friends list right there and the community is popping up all around me as I'm doing things. It seems that I actually have to go out and seek that functionality on the XMB. It's just not as well integrated.

Peter Dille: Okay, but it's not that we don't have it -- you just like the UI of the other service better?

IGN: Well, it's just there -- I don't have to look for it.


Last I checked I had to scroll around the NXE or go through blade menus to get to my friends list, and what's this about the community "popping up all around me"?

Dille even mentions him not liking the UI, but no he continues the outright bullshit lie...

Matt's not a PS.IGN guy, he's always been a Nintendo IGN guy, why the hell he's doing interviews for PS.IGN is beyond me... but regardless, he should stick to what he knows because clearly he doesn't know jack shit about the PS3.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 01:13 AM

Well, you just press the guide button and your friends list is one of the first options, isn't it?

That said, I don't have a lot of PS3 friends (and I've only ever played online with randoms), but even I know it's not like they're tucked away in some impossible-to-find place.

As for copy editing, I was fooling around with the RSS reader (Viigo) on my phone today and they run a feed called "best of gaming" or something. Doesn't seem to live up to that name.

I caught this review of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom by a horse:

Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is a great fighting game that should, neigh, needs to be in your Wii library right next to Super Smash Bros. Brawl.


http://gamerant.com/...ews-riley-7900/

It was part of the excerpt they included in the feed... to be fair gamerant maybe doesn't have copy editors. Amused me, though. (To be even fairer, the rest of the review might be better, but I've only read the few paragraphs that downloaded to my phone.)

EDIT: But probably not all that much better: "The lack of support for voice chat is a swift kick in the nads..."
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 07:04 AM

It was clear when listening to the IGN Nintendo podcast that Matt still has his Nintendo fanboy issues with Sony. He's firmly biased towards Nintendo and Microsoft.

The bigger problem is that he interviews as if he's more important that the person he's interviewing.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 07:37 AM

The bigger problem is that he interviews as if he's more important that the person he's interviewing.


I hate this. Too many interviewers are more interested in editorializing rather than asking simple questions and letting the subject talk. If you want to tell me your thoughts on something, write an editorial. Forcing your thoughts into an interview is unfair to the subject and the audience.
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