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[Indy aka Rex]

Oh for fuck sake... Now that Bioware's conceded to all the BS outcry, people are bitching about how they're not "happy" with their decision, how they should've stuck to their original vision, or because the game was already "ruined" for them.

Fucking fanboys.

[gokieks]

Oh for fuck sake... Now that Bioware's conceded to all the BS outcry, people are bitching about how they're not "happy" with their decision, how they should've stuck to their original vision, or because the game was already "ruined" for them.

Fucking fanboys.

It's very hard to give any credence to your dismissal of people's complaints about the ending when you've done so before you even played through the game.

And calling BioWare's response to the complaints as a "concession" is being more than little generous, including Muzyka's letter today that was little more than typical PR garbage, with the only point of substance being "we'll say more in April" (which you don't even need to be a full on cynic to think may just be a way to diffuse the fan vitriol and hope people have stopped caring in a few weeks).

[Kirbutashi]

Animation has always been janky in Mass Effect games from day one. You still get the occasional goldmine, but mostly things will jerk and snap all the way to the end.

Anyways, after today's message from Muzyka at Bioware, I think the thing I'm most frustrated with are game critics going to town on twitter and such, mad at Bioware (even though they've said nothing more than that they're "listening to constructive criticism") and boiling fan uproar down to just wanting a happy ending. Talk about not getting it at all.

[momerath]

Animation has always been janky in Mass Effect games from day one. You still get the occasional goldmine, but mostly things will jerk and snap all the way to the end.

Anyways, after today's message from Muzyka at Bioware, I think the thing I'm most frustrated with are game critics going to town on twitter and such, mad at Bioware (even though they've said nothing more than that they're "listening to constructive criticism") and boiling fan uproar down to just wanting a happy ending. Talk about not getting it at all.

Yeah, it bugs me to see people boiling it down to people wanting a "happy ending." Maybe there are some fans out there who want a joyful, gleeful happy ending, but I personally don't give a damn if they want to make the most depressing ending ever-- it's their story and I respect the tone of their ending either way. What I *was* disappointed by, though, was that Bioware decided to pick up their stuff and just go home rather than bother resolving... you know... anything.

[PlayerOneCJ]

I just think this is a bad precedent to set. Yeah he didn't say they're going to change the ending, but that's the implication of the response. And it shows that if fans of something complain loudly enough on the Internet they'll get what they want.

[mik]

In my role of resident cynic, I just see this as BioWare getting to eat their cake and have it, too.

[gokieks]

It's only a bad precedent if you believe that all fan complaints are the same in validity (with the strong implication being that none of them are). There have been plenty of fan outrage over games before, but the backlash over ME3 ending is pretty much unprecedented in scope (especially post-release), and there's a reason for that.

[famousmortimer]

Money rules the world, we all know this, and bioware knows it's on a losing streak in terms of fan reaction to its games. It's a panic move to even respond to these criticisms and even worse if they do something about it, but in some way I don't blame them because between this and Dragon Age 2 they've gone from one of my favorite developers to one of my most hated... and I don't think i'm alone in feeling that way.


But the problem with all of this is that they are treating their videogames as a commodity and not as a piece of art. This has been the problem all along, with the dumbing down of RPG aspects, upping the action, delaying the game to add multiplayer, adding DLC like motherfuckers... including day one DLC that seems to have been proven to have been ripped out of the game. Bioware isn't making art, they are making products. And that's fine, they are allowed to do that... but that's why they've lost me. Make a game and story because you believe in it, not because you are jumping through whatever hoops to chase the almighty dollar.

I'm sure Bioware wanted to make money when they made KOTOR, but I am also willing to bet that they were incredibly proud of what they created and put a lot of heart and soul into the art of it and didn't base every little thing in the game on making money. This, to me, is the difference between bioware then and bioware now.

[Jonnjonzz]

I think I figured out the real reason why most people aren't happy with the ending.

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Beyond the stupid color by numbers ending, the game basically says you're objectively wrong about everything you have ever done in any of the Mass effect games. Since you don't get to make any real arguments to the God Child it implies that he is right and the player is wrong. So if the God Child is right, that the created(synthetics) will always destroy their creators(organics), the entire trilogy of games we have been playing are just a giant waste of time and sentient life would have just been better using all the ships you amassed, filling them will the entire populations of their respective planets, and just make a line so the Reapers can eat/dissolve us as fast and efficiently as possible

[momerath]

I think I figured out the real reason why most people aren't happy with the ending.

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Beyond the stupid color by numbers ending, the game basically says you're objectively wrong about everything you have ever done in any of the Mass effect games. Since you don't get to make any real arguments to the God Child it implies that he is right and the player is wrong. So if the God Child is right, that the created(synthetics) will always destroy their creators(organics), the entire trilogy of games we have been playing are just a giant waste of time and sentient life would have just been better using all the ships you amassed, filling them will the entire populations of their respective planets, and just make a line so the Reapers can eat/dissolve us as fast and efficiently as possible

That is precisely my biggest problem with the ending.

Edited by momerath, 21 March 2012 - 12:11 PM.

[Thrillhouse17]

To be fair though, the ending is really bad. I think that's the main thing.

[momerath]

I can see it now... "Breaking news: more Mass Effect 3 ending material found to already be on-disc, behind DLC unlock key."

[Kirbutashi]

Money rules the world, we all know this, and bioware knows it's on a losing streak in terms of fan reaction to its games. It's a panic move to even respond to these criticisms and even worse if they do something about it, but in some way I don't blame them because between this and Dragon Age 2 they've gone from one of my favorite developers to one of my most hated... and I don't think i'm alone in feeling that way.


But the problem with all of this is that they are treating their videogames as a commodity and not as a piece of art. This has been the problem all along, with the dumbing down of RPG aspects, upping the action, delaying the game to add multiplayer, adding DLC like motherfuckers... including day one DLC that seems to have been proven to have been ripped out of the game. Bioware isn't making art, they are making products. And that's fine, they are allowed to do that... but that's why they've lost me. Make a game and story because you believe in it, not because you are jumping through whatever hoops to chase the almighty dollar.

I'm sure Bioware wanted to make money when they made KOTOR, but I am also willing to bet that they were incredibly proud of what they created and put a lot of heart and soul into the art of it and didn't base every little thing in the game on making money. This, to me, is the difference between bioware then and bioware now.

This is true of anyone putting a game in a box to sell on a shelf, not just Bioware. I can guarantee you that there are developers in there that still believe in what they're making, too. For all the DLC mistakes and horrible endings and other ugly business stuff that takes place, there's still a pretty good game wrapped in one of the most fantastic original sci fi settings gaming has ever seen. For Mass Effect and its player choice formula (that they fucking forgot at the end end) to have resulted in this much outcry while other games just get forgotten one week later is pretty impressive in its own right.

I would love to know if the one of the series' lead writer leaving before ME3 resulted in some of this madness.

[PlayerOneStewy]

I just think this is a bad precedent to set. Yeah he didn't say they're going to change the ending, but that's the implication of the response. And it shows that if fans of something complain loudly enough on the Internet they'll get what they want.

I don't think there was any implication in their statement that they would change the ending. All they really said was that they are listening to constructive criticism and will strive to clarify it and give some more closure. Sensationalist news articles are what's adding in the element of "they're implying they'll change the ending."

At least that's how I read it.

[Phineas Gage]

In my role of resident cynic, I just see this as BioWare getting to eat their cake and have it, too.

This is the exact phrase that came into my head as I read the first few lines of Muzyka's message. I'd be very surprised to see them do anything substantial.

[PlayerOneStewy]

I still think the idea was to drive sales of DLC all along and this whole controversy has fed into it perfectly.

[mik]

No way! They were NEVER going to have post-release DLC that tied in to the plot. That's just crazy talk.

[Thrillhouse17]

20 minutes of some internet dude breaking down why the ME3 ending is stupid and full of plot holes.

The internet has everything.

[PlayerOneStewy]

That's 19:46 longer than I would watch even if I were remotely interested.

[Jonnjonzz]

I just like it for quoting the makers of the game saying they wouldn't do exactly what they did.

[Jonnjonzz]

After listening to the latest Games Dammit! and after rolling my eyes at the amazing stupidity of it all, I would just like some "games journalists" to actually have an honest discussion with someone who is not the rabid internet people they are talking about, with regards to the mess of an ending this game has.

[dammitmattt]

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague because I'm only a little over halfway through the game, but as much as I'm enjoying myself, I'm not FEELING it the same way as the first two games. There are a number of things that are objectively better from ME2, but there's just something a little bit off about the pacing and the story for me so far. I'm not even sure if I can define it, but it's just not the obvious GOTY for me that ME2 was.

On another note, I only played the multiplayer for about 2 hours one Saturday afternoon, but I REALLY enjoyed it. I got my Engineer up to level 11 in that short amount of time.

Edited by dammitmattt, 23 March 2012 - 10:38 AM.

[momerath]

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague because I'm only a little over halfway through the game, but as much as I'm enjoying myself, I'm not FEELING it the same way as the first two games. There are a number of things that are objectively better from ME2, but there's just something a little bit off about the pacing and the story for me so far. I'm not even sure if I can define it, but it's just not the obvious GOTY for me that ME2 was.

On another note, I only played the multiplayer for about 2 hours one Saturday afternoon, but I REALLY enjoyed it. I got my Engineer up to level 11 in that short amount of time.

After some thought now that it's been almost a week since finishing, I agree. While ME3 was a great game, and I enjoyed my time with it, it just didn't grab me the way ME2 did. That was the high point of the trilogy for me.

[Kirbutashi]

ME1 is still my favorite by far. It has the benefit of establishing the world. I also loved the Mako planet exploration and Virmire remains my favorite locale in the series. My main issue with ME3 is that they just completely stripped out the ability to just find places to go in the galaxy like in 1 and 2. Maybe that's why the pacing feels weird for you, Matt; all you have is planet scanning, fetch quests, and set missions from the game.

Other than the ending, however, I still really loved ME3. Once whatever DLC comes out in the future, I'll do my second renegade playthrough of misery. I've seen a lot of the shit that happens on that and it is not pretty.

[dammitmattt]

I'm really interested to see the following scenarios for my Renegade playthrough:

1. Renegade from previous games with everyone alive in ME2 just to be a dick to them

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before they start dying off.

2. Renegade from previous games with everyone dead in ME2 just to see what the character-specific moments/side missions are like. For instance, I did the Jacob mission last night. I assume it plays out exactly the same but I don't get him (or his lady?) as a war asset and everything else for that mission is more generic. Also, on the missions where characters bite it, I wonder who it is that takes their place as the hero of the day?

Unfortunately, I didn't have a save with everyone dead so I can only try scenario 1.

Any word on how tough Insanity is? I never finished ME2 on Insanity because it was nearly impossible (and definitely not fun) with a Vanguard, but I'd really like my Renegade playthrough to be on Insanity so I can kill two birds with one stone. Any word on which class is best for Insanity this time around? Vanguard is better but it's probably still not viable.

Edited by dammitmattt, 23 March 2012 - 12:52 PM.

[gamer812]

Any word on how tough Insanity is? I never finished ME2 on Insanity because it was nearly impossible (and definitely not fun) with a Vanguard, but I'd really like my Renegade playthrough to be on Insanity so I can kill two birds with one stone. Any word on which class is best for Insanity this time around? Vanguard is better but it's probably still not viable.

Insanity in ME3 is pretty easy as you don't have to deal with those big, bulbous husks that shockwave the hell out of you. You just need to worry about those damn turrets. I bitched about the difficulty early on but once you start upgrading your weapons and powers, it gets insanely (ha) easy. I played Vanguard as well and having shields recharge every time I did a biotic charge helped a lot. Biotic explosions from teammates is very helpful against brutes and banshees especially late in the game (Warp + Shockwave = lifesaver).

[DistantStorm]

Here's a question: how do you unlock character appearance customization options in MP? The game says they're available in "reinforcement packs" . Is it referring to the rookie/veteran/spectre packs in a generic way? I've been playing a SHITLOAD of MP, and aside from the occasional new character, I haven't come across any kind of appearance mod. So what's the deal?

[Kirbutashi]

You get appearance options when you receive a character again from a pack. It only unlocks a little bit at a time, too.

[Compeau]

I finally beat the game. Took me about 42 hours, and my number was around 6600.

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I don't get the people saying that what Shepard did by brokering the truce between the Quarians and Geth proves that organics and synthetics can get together, thus validating their choice to destroy the Reapers. When you destroy the reapers, you eradicate the Geth. How is that getting along? It's completely invalidating any progress you have made between organics and synthetics. The only true way to further the progress you made is with synthesis. Of course, the real problem is that the option to destroy the Reapers also destroys EDI and the Geth. That really sucks.

Like many, I'm not too happy with the ending. It seems like there are some plot holes and logical inconsistency in the ending. That video posted earlier in the thread covers them completely. The ending is just completely fucked up. It's not about the ending not being happy or it not providing any sort of conclusion for the various characters from the games. It completely goes against everything from Mass Effect up until that point. You got the entire galaxy to work together: organics and synthetics, Krogans and Turians, mercenaries, even Rachni. But at the end of the game some "god child" tells you that you must destroy the Mass Relays and sacrifice your life or else synthetics will destroy organics. Bullshit, we're already getting along (the Quarians and Geth are working together to rebuild their world, and EVI's humanization serve as proof). There is no benefit to brokering peace between the Quarians and Geth, or in curing the Genophage, or in any of the other choices you make in the game. You make peace between organics and synthetics, and the kid says "too bad, you're still doomed to fight each other to extinction". That's a load of crap. If you do all of the "good" stuff, the kid should change his dialog, and give you another option, where he simply steps aside and sees if the peace between organics and synthetics can last. Something like this:

Kid: "Maybe organics and synthetics can live in harmony, as you are attempting between the Quarians and Geth. The Reapers and I will step aside for the moment, to observe your progress. But if my fears come to pass, and synthetics once against threaten all organic life in the galaxy, we will return. And you will not have this station to use as a weapon if that day comes to pass."
Shepard: "It won't."
Citadel crashes into Earth, Reapers leave, and at the end you see Shepard's gasp like in the best "destroy the Reapers" ending.

It doesn't add a bunch of content or create new cutscenes. But this ending makes all the work you do in ME3 mean something, as there's actually a reason to unite the galaxy (as you don't need to do all of that stuff to get your number high enough for a decent ending currently). Plus, it leaves the galaxy intact with Mass Relays and the shadow of the Reapers still being out there somewhere, so they could always make more games at some point if they desired.

Bioware is likely to release dlc that will probably add ending content for the various members of your party, but I don't see them changing the actual ending of the game.

But whatever. There have been plenty of movies and tv shows with bad endings, so we're used to it.

Edited by Compeau, 30 March 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[momerath]

I finally beat the game. Took me about 42 hours, and my number was around 6600.

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I don't get the people saying that what Shepard did by brokering the truce between the Quarians and Geth proves that organics and synthetics can get together, thus validating their choice to destroy the Reapers. When you destroy the reapers, you eradicate the Geth. How is that getting along? It's completely invalidating any progress you have made between organics and synthetics. The only true way to further the progress you made is with synthesis. Of course, the real problem is that the option to destroy the Reapers also destroys EDI and the Geth. That really sucks.

Like many, I'm not too happy with the ending. It seems like there are some plot holes and logical inconsistency in the ending. That video posted earlier in the thread covers them completely. The ending is just completely fucked up. It's not about the ending not being happy or it not providing any sort of conclusion for the various characters from the games. It completely goes against everything from Mass Effect up until that point. You got the entire galaxy to work together: organics and synthetics, Krogans and Turians, mercenaries, even Rachni. But at the end of the game some "god child" tells you that you must destroy the Mass Relays and sacrifice your life or else synthetics will destroy organics. Bullshit, we're already getting along (the Quarians and Geth are working together to rebuild their world, and EVI's humanization serve as proof). There is no benefit to brokering peace between the Quarians and Geth, or in curing the Genophage, or in any of the other choices you make in the game. You make peace between organics and synthetics, and the kid says "too bad, you're still doomed to fight each other to extinction". That's a load of crap. If you do all of the "good" stuff, the kid should change his dialog, and give you another option, where he simply steps aside and sees if the peace between organics and synthetics can last. Something like this:

Kid: "Maybe organics and synthetics can live in harmony, as you are attempting between the Quarians and Geth. The Reapers and I will step aside for the moment, to observe your progress. But if my fears come to pass, and synthetics once against threaten all organic life in the galaxy, we will return. And you will not have this station to use as a weapon if that day comes to pass."
Shepard: "It won't."
Citadel crashes into Earth, Reapers leave, and at the end you see Shepard's gasp like in the best "destroy the Reapers" ending.

It doesn't add a bunch of content or create new cutscenes. But this ending makes all the work you do in ME3 mean something, as there's actually a reason to unite the galaxy (as you don't need to do all of that stuff to get your number high enough for a decent ending currently). Plus, it leaves the galaxy intact with Mass Relays and the shadow of the Reapers still being out there somewhere, so they could always make more games at some point if they desired.

Bioware is likely to release dlc that will probably add ending content for the various members of your party, but I don't see them changing the actual ending of the game.

But whatever. There have been plenty of movies and tv shows with bad endings, so we're used to it.

I think you and I are actually in agreement, though maybe I worded myself poorly.

Clarification:

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I never meant to say that my choice to destroy the reapers was validated by the peace between the geth and quarians. I definitely realize that choosing the destruction ending stands in complete opposition to that approach. I actually was just expressing how angry I was that the game was basically telling me flat-out that it's impossible for synthetics and organics to get along, much like how disappointed you seem to be in the same thing.

The difference was, I was so annoyed about the kid telling me that my peace efforts were useless, that I picked the destruction ending out of spite. I told myself "fuck it, maybe now that the reapers won't exist any more and there isn't some holographic child in charge, then the next time synthetics come into being, we can have a better chance of lasting in this universe together."

Or something like that.

But yeah I was pretty much so taken out of the experience by the game telling me "no, you're wrong" that I just chose the only ending where Shepard lives, turned off the game, and stopped thinking about it. I like to imagine that my Shepard spends the rest of his life trying to atone for his decision while simultaneously telling the universe of the importance of peaceful coexistence.

[Jonnjonzz]

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The destroy ending where Shepard breathes makes so little sense its mind boggling.

We are made to believe that everything the holo-boy says is true and he is all knowing. He specifically tells us that in the destroy ending we will die because we are part cybernetic(which doesn't make sense since the stuff in me is no different then the technology in spaceships or in a damn phone, there is no AI or VI in the stuff that keeps me alive its just electronics). So if Shepard survives in that ending, it means that holo-boy doesn't know everything, that those 3 ending choices really mean nothing, and that the ending is even more bullshit then it already is.

Bioware said that the endings are suppose to be thought provoking, and they are. It's just that the more you think about them, the more they make no sense on any level.

A Red Letter Media style review that goes over the stupidity of the endings in a pretty damn intelligent way.

[Compeau]

I think you and I are actually in agreement, though maybe I worded myself poorly.

Clarification:

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I never meant to say that my choice to destroy the reapers was validated by the peace between the geth and quarians. I definitely realize that choosing the destruction ending stands in complete opposition to that approach. I actually was just expressing how angry I was that the game was basically telling me flat-out that it's impossible for synthetics and organics to get along, much like how disappointed you seem to be in the same thing.

The difference was, I was so annoyed about the kid telling me that my peace efforts were useless, that I picked the destruction ending out of spite. I told myself "fuck it, maybe now that the reapers won't exist any more and there isn't some holographic child in charge, then the next time synthetics come into being, we can have a better chance of lasting in this universe together."

Or something like that.

But yeah I was pretty much so taken out of the experience by the game telling me "no, you're wrong" that I just chose the only ending where Shepard lives, turned off the game, and stopped thinking about it. I like to imagine that my Shepard spends the rest of his life trying to atone for his decision while simultaneously telling the universe of the importance of peaceful coexistence.

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We're in the same boat. I chose synthesis, because I just couldn't stomach killing the Geth and EDI, after everything I did to save them (or to help EDI become more human).

However, after thinking about it more, maybe controlling the Reapers is the best choice. The Geth don't get eradicated, and people can still control their own destiny without the synthesis stuff. Shepard could just take control of the Reapers, and destroy them or do whatever she wants. The only problem is that Shepard dies, and the Mass Relays are still destroyed. Of course, since the ending doesn't specify what Shepard does when she takes control of the Reapers (other than them flying away), that isn't great either.

[Jonnjonzz]

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We're in the same boat. I chose synthesis, because I just couldn't stomach killing the Geth and EDI, after everything I did to save them (or to help EDI become more human).

However, after thinking about it more, maybe controlling the Reapers is the best choice. The Geth don't get eradicated, and people can still control their own destiny without the synthesis stuff. Shepard could just take control of the Reapers, and destroy them or do whatever she wants. The only problem is that Shepard dies, and the Mass Relays are still destroyed. Of course, since the ending doesn't specify what Shepard does when she takes control of the Reapers (other than them flying away), that isn't great either.

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The problem with all the choices, the video I linked goes over it in one of the parts, is that they all ask you to literally make the big decision in the galaxy with only the little information holo-boy tells you. Those aren't choices then, they are just things you hope might happen based on something you must assume holo-boy is right about.

[Compeau]

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The problem with all the choices, the video I linked goes over it in one of the parts, is that they all ask you to literally make the big decision in the galaxy with only the little information holo-boy tells you. Those aren't choices then, they are just things you hope might happen based on something you must assume holo-boy is right about.

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Exactly. I can't believe this is the case, but it's almost like they ran out of time before they got to the ending, and so they just rushed something out of the door.

edit:

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What if they changed the choices at the end, and got rid of the kid's talk about synthetics eliminating organics? Instead, halfway through the game you learn that triggering the device will eradicate all synthetics, including the Geth and EDI. That could affect the choices you make about the Quarians vs the Geth. At the end, the choice isn't HOW to trigger the device, but whether to do so or not. One the one hand you can wipe out the Reapers, but at the cost of the Geth and EDI. On the other hand, you can refuse to trigger the device, and try to win a conventional war, with the possibility for outright annihilation. If you do all of the "good' choices throughout the game and have a high Effective Military Strength, you may feel confident in taking that risk.

Edited by Compeau, 30 March 2012 - 08:07 PM.

[Jonnjonzz]

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Exactly. I can't believe this is the case, but it's almost like they ran out of time before they got to the ending, and so they just rushed something out of the door.

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Or was cut of for DLC later.
Or this wasn't the original ending but one they made up after the scripted was leaked a while back.
Or ME3 wasn't written by the same person who wrote ME1 and co-wrote ME2, and that person was so busy with SW:The Old Republic he couldn't be bothered to consult on the game.
Or Bioware was that arrogant and thought their product was so avant-garde that it would blow peoples mind by their awesomeness.

Pretty sure one of us has the right answer.

[momerath]

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At the end of the day, I'm honestly still just shocked that the story effectively boiled down to "everything you've done towards peace in this series has been futile." Surprisingly bleak, and doesn't really serve the rest of the story that they spent so much time creating.

It's just as simple as that, for me. All the other disappointments seem to feed back into that overarching theme of futility.

[Jonnjonzz]

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At the end of the day, I'm honestly still just shocked that the story effectively boiled down to "everything you've done towards peace in this series has been futile." Surprisingly bleak, and doesn't really serve the rest of the story that they spent so much time creating.

It's just as simple as that, for me. All the other disappointments seem to feed back into that overarching theme of futility.

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Its actually worse then futile. Its that, giving holo-boy is apparently infallible, what you have been doing the entire time is wrong. Shepard is just prolonging the suffering of the galaxy every second of the time you spend playing the games. Apparently the galaxy would have been better off if Shepard just tossed him/herself out of an airlock before setting foot on Eden Prime in that first game.

[gamer812]

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Its actually worse then futile. Its that, giving holo-boy is apparently infallible, what you have been doing the entire time is wrong. Shepard is just prolonging the suffering of the galaxy every second of the time you spend playing the games. Apparently the galaxy would have been better off if Shepard just tossed him/herself out of an airlock before setting foot on Eden Prime in that first game.

That made me chuckle.

[MojoBox]

So yesterday my roommates copy stopped working, just froze at the loading screen. After doing a lot of checking around and testing, turns out there's some glitch that totally fucks up the game for a given Gamertag and just flat breaks the game. The only real fix I've found involves dumping your profile to a flash drive and using 3rd party software to delete the corrupted file before restoring it to the HDD, yikes!

[Kirbutashi]

Well, Bioware just announced their free Extended Cut ending DLC for the summer. I'm going to go ahead and make the bold prediction that they would have been better off not having done anything to their horrible ending. The last thing that it needed is padding and clarification for things that are so fundamentally flawed to begin with.

Oh well.