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[levitynyc]

All they have to say is Retine Display and I am in.... day 1.

Hopefully they allow for online preorders unlike last year. Waiting in line sucks. If I do wait in line, I'll be sure to grab 2 with one to sell. With last years shortages I wouldve got a 180% return.

I love my iPad 2, but when using it after the iPhone 4, the quality of the screen makes me sad.

What else you think Uncle Tim has up his sleeve for this thing?

[SickBoy]

I think they have to say "quad-core processor" for me, in addition to retina.

Based on what I've been reading, sounds like they may already be en route to retail, so maybe there won't be such a thing as "preorders." If I'm buying one, I'll swallow whatever wait from the web, because the whole madhouse at the actual Apple store is ridiculous.

I look forward to the cameras (we have an iPad 1) and having a tablet that won't be commandeered by my wife (or that she won't let our son play with... I don't have a huge problem with that, but I do wish the restrictions settings were more robust).

Edited by SickBoy, 28 February 2012 - 07:45 PM.

[PlayerOneCJ]

Looking forward to seeing what they show. And then buying it (for work!).

[Wenny]

They would have to say "free" since my iPad 2 works just fine as a YouTube machine as is.

[Ondore]

They would have to say "BJ port", since tablets are useless in my workflow.

[TheKurichan]

Looking forward to iPad 4.

[levitynyc]

People use tablets for work?

[Outlaw Moogle]

Why do people use the camera on the iPad other than to Facetime or Skype? Do they not realize they look like douchebags holding up a giant tablet to take a photo? These are all the same people that have iPhone 4s or 4S in their pocket anyway.

[Wenny]

Why do people use the camera on the iPad other than to Facetime or Skype? Do they not realize they look like douchebags holding up a giant tablet to take a photo? These are all the same people that have iPhone 4s or 4S in their pocket anyway.

My six-year old loves to use the iPad for photos and videos. I'll let him know he looks like a douchebag and should stop.

[Indy aka Rex]

http://gizmodo.com/5...ive-the-ipad-hd

This thing better have some serious upscaling muscle, otherwise it's practically useless for things like gaming thanks to that resolution.

[levitynyc]

laying down the groundwork for taking the day off next friday.

[momerath]

I wish I had the money for this thing, but with the Vita and all the other games this month, that doesn't really seem realistic...

The rumors sure are making it out to be a pretty significant refresh, though.

[levitynyc]

Gameday!

[famousmortimer]

It has everything i wanted (quad core, more ram, retina) that was reasonable for apple (ie they weren't gonna add memory card slots, usb, etc). But... I'm gonna suck it up and deal with my tech jealousy for a few weeks and not get one. Just dropped a trillion dollars on the vita and with all these social games I don't have enough time in the day. And really, what I love my ipad for more than anything is turn based strategy games (and tower defense) and for twitter/browsing/etc. So my ipad 1 will still fill that role perfectly, unless someone makes some sort of crazy PS3 level tower defense game. But if they do, oh well.



Next year though will likely be the last year I can hold off. I'd prefer to do it every 4 years. But 3 will likely be my max.

[momerath]

Yeah... as usual I find myself enticed by the siren song of this thing. But then I remembered I have a new Vita at home, so I figure my itch for new tech has been scratched sufficiently for a while. If only I had infinite moneys.

[famousmortimer]

I cannot fucking believe it's called "The New iPad."



This company is a fucking shell of its former self.


Wii-U just got a whole lot sexier.

[Wenny]

I cannot fucking believe it's called "The New iPad."

It's a pretty fucking stupid name. But people will only ever refer to it as iPad anyway so where it will really be stupid is during the next announcement when they have to say "this iPad is 40% faster than The New iPad!"

[famousmortimer]

Well that's what is so bewildering about it. Nobody ever said "Im gonna play with my ipad 2." Well, Im sure some people said that, but they are assholes.


Calling it "The New iPad" is only going to add confusion down the line. And it's completely unnecasary. Calling the vita "The new PSP" or the 3DS "the new DS in 3D" would actually make more sense because there are people that have no idea what these devices are. But when you just announce that, what, 17 million ipad 2s were sold last quarter...? Everyone knows what an ipad is. Everyone knows the ipad 3 is the new one. You don't need to educate your customers with the name of your device.


Unless you think your customers are idiots. Which it seems that apple thinks we are.


And it just sounds stupid as a name. The only "new" thing I can think of was New Coke... and that did wonderfully (though that had more to do with quality than name). Not that im saying The New iPad will do bad because of the name, because it surely won't, but it is going to cause confusion and also a large amount of mocking from dickheads like me.


"Honey, can you pass me The New iPad?"

"What? You got a new one?"

"No, it's the one I got in March."

"Oh, why are you calling it 'The new ipad"

"Because that's it's name."

"Are you fucking serious? You own something with a name like that? I want a divorce. Also, I've been fucking all of your friends and they all have bigger dicks than you."






THIS WILL HAPPEN EVERYDAY THIS SUMMER! EVERYDAY!

Edited by famousmortimer, 07 March 2012 - 02:45 PM.

[momerath]

It's a pretty fucking stupid name. But people will only ever refer to it as iPad anyway so where it will really be stupid is during the next announcement when they have to say "this iPad is 40% faster than The New iPad!"

I suppose they could call the next one "The Newer iPad." And then maybe "The Newest iPad."

[Wenny]

I suppose they could call the next one "The Newer iPad." And then maybe "The Newest iPad."

They could just call them all The Latest iPad and leave it at that.

[famousmortimer]

And eventually there will be one called "Ehhhh, it's an ipad, I guess"

Edited by famousmortimer, 07 March 2012 - 02:49 PM.

[momerath]

The funny thing is, I'd be fine with them just calling it plain old "iPad" for each generation, as long as the form factor doesn't change drastically or anything. For example, the "iPod classic" as we know it now was just called "iPod" through several generations of hardware refreshes, and it never really bothered me. In situations where more specifics were needed, I just called mine by its generation number.

I mean, it made sense to append "nano" or "touch" to the end of those models when the models were dramatically different, but within each of those product lines they didn't always change the name with each new generation.


Maybe the whole "same name" thing is a little too complicated for the average consumer though.

[levitynyc]

Order is SLOWLY being done....servers are getting hammered

[Indy aka Rex]

So, it uses the same GPU as the Vita, it uses a dual-core CPU compared to the Vita's quad-core, and if the rumors are true, it's still using 512mb ram? Oh yeah, and the resolution is what, two-to-three times greater than the Vita's?

A Vita costs 160 dollars to make and it's got better innards than this... Are people paying extra for that Apple tax or is it the retina display is way espensive?

[Wenny]

A Vita costs 160 dollars to make and it's got better innards than this... Are people paying extra for that Apple tax or is it the retina display is way espensive?

They're paying extra for the App Store, duh.

[levitynyc]

Preordered SUCCUESS!

You are a fucking idiot Indy.

[levitynyc]

Ok Indy... how much built in storage does the Vita have? How big is the vita screen? Go play with your android shit..


I sold my iPad 2 to Gazelle for 270 bucks so an upgrade essentially costs me $350 bucks. I'll take it.

[famousmortimer]

Preordered SUCCUESS!

You are a fucking idiot Indy.

Says the person who updates a $500 device every year.



I mean I'm all for crazy spending, but take a year off man!

[mrkgoo]

Int he promotional video, they did refer to it as the "Third-Generation iPad". It's like old-school iPods!

Awesome.

[famousmortimer]

I sold my iPad 2 to Gazelle for 270 bucks so an upgrade essentially costs me $350 bucks. I'll take it.

iPad 1s were going on amazon last week for $300-$350. You just got robbed.

[levitynyc]

I do not use ebay....at all... long story... the extra $100 I'd have gotten after fees isn't worth it.

[levitynyc]

You can also trade it into amazon.com for 300+, but it needs to have a flawless display, while mine has a few light scratches. I'd rather 270 and cash.

Edited by levitynyc, 07 March 2012 - 03:42 PM.

[SpartanAB25]

Should I buy an iPad? I've got a MacBook Pro (2009 model) 15 inch 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo, I can take it with me places if need be. So, is there really anything that could justify buying an iPad?

2 years ago I got a Samsung Captivate (Android). Great phone. However, I'll be allowed to upgrade in about a month or so and I'm probably going to get the iPhone 4S. The captivate got stolen about 2 weeks ago. So I disabled service for it and got a new phone, an unlocked HTC Surround (Windows Phone). I bought that phone since it was the cheapest smartphone in the store. The Windows Phone OS is okay, but I can't afford an iPhone until I am allowed to upgrade.

[Indy aka Rex]

Ok Indy... how much built in storage does the Vita have? How big is the vita screen? Go play with your android shit..

You're telling me that 16gb of flash memory costs apple hundreds of dollars? Because apparently, Amazon is telling me 16gb of flash memory goes for less than 10 dollars. The Vita's screen is half the new iPad's size, and retail 10.4" (larger than the iPad's 9.7") LCD panels go for less than 90, granted they aren't retina display panels, but, assuming the cost of the OLED display on the Vita is along the lines for 50-60 dollars? That's $100-110 between the CPU, GPU, memory, board and wireless chip.

So, how about that Apple tax?

[SickBoy]

I think it's their effort to dial it back into the iPod zone, as has been mentioned. They don't call the latest iPod Touch the iPod Touch 4x or anything like that. So I presume they're just trying to get out of the sequential numbering game. Otherwise in five years they'd be on iPad 8.

A Vita costs 160 dollars to make and it's got better innards than this... Are people paying extra for that Apple tax or is it the retina display is way espensive?

Comparing production cost to retail price? Nice. Still, if iSuppli is to be believed, the margin on the iPad 2, percentage-wise, was probably the same as the Vita's at launch (assuming that $160 is accurate). EDIT: I would assume the input cost is probably pretty similar on the new one.

Edited by SickBoy, 07 March 2012 - 03:52 PM.

[SickBoy]

You're telling me that 16gb of flash memory costs apple hundreds of dollars? Because apparently, Amazon is telling me 16gb of flash memory goes for [url="http://www.amazon.co...b,aps,683"]less than 10 dollars.[/url

Actually, I'm pretty sure 16GB of memory is worth $56: http://www.amazon.co...31156981&sr=8-1

Edited by SickBoy, 07 March 2012 - 03:51 PM.

[Indy aka Rex]

Actually, I'm pretty sure 16GB of memory is worth $56: http://www.amazon.co...31156981&sr=8-1

For a Vita memory card? Sure. For flash memory? No way.

[SickBoy]

I thought you were comparing the exceptional value of the Vita to the exceptional rip-off of the iPad.

[Indy aka Rex]

I thought you were comparing the exceptional value of the Vita to the exceptional rip-off of the iPad.

That's why cheaper options exist. Even if I did buy the 16gb memory card, that's still 300-350, which is cheaper than an iPad. Either way, we all know accessory pricing on any electronic is BS. How much did the crappy iPhone covers Apple sold cost? Or the stupid laptop dock for Motorola android phones? You didn't "need" them, so they cost a buttload.

[SickBoy]

So I went and ordered one. Not sure if I'll actually let the order go through in the end. I still have an iPad 1 and my son uses it a fair bit (he'd be on 24-7 if we allowed it). But I'd like to separate my stuff from his, because while restrictions help prevent him from deleting anything or doing anything that's too damaging, they're not strong enough to prevent him from doing undesirable stuff (ruining save files in games, etc.).

Maybe I can hold off for another year... will see.