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#1 famousmortimer

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:11 PM

Schedule (for Pro and Amateur):

(General rule: It's always the first 9h on Tues/Wed and Fri/Sat/Sun, for americans atleast) Major = double points

Tournament 1: Tues May 22 #271, Wednesday #274

Tournament 2: Fri May 25 #280, Saturday #283, sunday #286

Tournament 3 (major): Tuesday May 29 #292, wednesday #295

Tournament 4: Friday June 1 #301, saturday #304, Sunday #307

Tournament 5: Tuesday June 5 #313, wed #316

Tournament 6 (major): Fri June 8 #322, sat #325, sun #328




Take a look at these lists below - this is our most important pre-season activity. Make sure i got it right. Did I miss anyone? Are you in casual but are committed to play and want to jump into amateur? Don't like where you're placed? Well speak up now because by tuesday evening this shit is pretty locked in. Also, someone double check my schedule and make sure i got the dates/tournament #s right. Thanks



Pro lineup: NOTE - IF YOU ARE IN THE PRO LEAGUE MAKE SURE THAT MOMERATH IS ON YOUR FRIENDS LIST AS HE IS THE OFFICIAL SCORER AND THE OFFICIAL BACKUP IF MY BRAIN IMPLODES

Kurichan
juan
matt
maximus
momerath
follow
syndite
Hov
Tygor
Thekranz


Amateur lineup: Make sure iLVth3powrglove is on your PSN friends list as he is the official amateur scorer and backup if I go AWOL and kill a man.

stewy
greenlantern
powerglove
tron
raggen
pcmodem
falion
borstalshark
alienatedgoose
jetpilot
nubuo*
greg
skumchunk
drussyc*
Joseph*
mort
germ*
harmonsmith
levity
Wenny

* = missed a lot of tournaments (or consecutive tourneys at the end), not sure if interested or not, so if you have a star and don't post or play in the first tournament I'm just gonna automatically slide you down to the casual





Casual (aka the people on my friends list who said they wanted to play and then haven't... or used to play and since have stopped):

Phineasgage
richydevil
mik (i believe he sold this - or i dreamt that he told me that. I dream about mik)
superpac
phil
massa
thrillhouse
nasero
tigerriot

_____________________(below this line is people who wanted on my friends list to play but haven't played and may be removed from my friends list to make room for new people if they don't show up/tell me they're still interested - or maybe they werent even for here and I dont know who the shit they are, or they are just from the vita friends list thread and don't even own this game and im just confused)


Bog
cptroboto
ctbalcerak
dream98
dwin45
giantspider
giohammer
haldrogen
kso0514
lammy
lord_audie
manEAtiko
mayhemprotocol
nervebag
thecrankymonkey
tonykipp

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:11 PM

Tuesday results:
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Wednesday results:

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:11 PM

TONS OF INFO!

How to join! How Scoring Works! FAQ! Game Tips!


So for those that don't know here is how it works (including tweaks from season 1 to season 2).


1. There are 6 tournaments in a season. Each week has a tournament on Tues/Wed and on Fri/Sat/Sun. So, obviously, a season is 3 weeks long.

2. You win points based on your standings in each tournament. Think of it like mario kart, where the winner gets 10 points, 2nd gets 8, 3rd gets 6, etc. We will be working with different point values than that, but that's the basic idea (actual scoring table below). In season one it was only the top 7 that got points in a tournament, in season two we are expanding that. This season it will be the top 15.

3. There are two "MAJOR MAJOR" tournaments in a season... tournament #3 and tournament #6. They are worth double points.


All are welcomed here. Doesn't matter if you don't know anyone, if you never listened to the podcast, you're a member's cousin's friend's girlfriend, you hate me but love golf... whatever. All are welcome. To join follow the steps in the FAQ directly below this.


And P1P hosts (or people recruiting friends) make sure when you tell people that "you just have to be on famousmortimer's friend's list to be entered" that you add the information "but make sure to send him a note on PSN/forums/wherever telling him who you are because if he gets a friend request from someone with zero explanation he assumes it's an idiot from Near and deletes it."



Tournament FAQ!

I'm new here/haven't posted here in a while/just got a vita/etc AND I WANT TO JOIN! WHAT DO I DO?

It's easy, really. All you have to do is get on my friends list. My PSN is famousmortimer. My list keeps filling and but I try to keep purging so people can atleast get friends requests through.

Of utmost importance is that you tell me that you are from P1P!!! I'm getting a ton of friend requests, maybe from near, maybe from neogaf, maybe from having a bigtime internet podcast. Ok probably not for the last reason. So if I get a friend request with no other info I decline it if I don't recognize the name. Obviously, if Phil gets a vita and sends me a request I'll know who he is... but if CAPTNRXTHERMOMETER sends me a friend request with no other info I will probably reject it. Also, take note, you can't type a message when sending a friend request on the vita! So if you add me via your vita you will need to send another message (via group messaging) saying who you are.


Get it? Good.

Once you are on my list all you have to do is play. You will then be on my friends results page and I will automatically post your scores in the casual tournament. At the end of the season (and each season is only 3 weeks) you will be moved into the appropriate group (amateur or pro)



I missed the first day of the tournament, can I still enter?

No. Sorry. I was thinking of giving people an opportunity to come in late by giving them +1 or +2 over the highest score, but really these tournaments happen so often that I don't see a good reason to add more work for myself.



I would like to help!

Awesome! Currently Kurichan, powerglove, momerath and I have it under control, but if we start to struggle we will reach out for more people.




Season three scoring rules.




The top 15 will be getting points this season in the amateur division. The top 10 (which is the entire field) get points in pro.


Points will be doled out as follows for amateur:


Left = place, right = points given

1 - 13
2 - 11
3 - 10
4 - 9
5 - 8
6 - 7
7 - 6
8 - 5
9 - 4
10- 3
11- 2.5
12- 2
13- 1.5
14- 1
15-.5


The points will be doled out as follows for pro:

1. 11
2. 9
3. 8
4. 7
5. 6
6. 5
7. 4
8. 3
9. 2
10.1



So as you see 1-10 get a solid number, 11-15 start getting smaller integers. But the good news is that going by attendance/scores of season one that this should mean that just about everyone that enters a tournament should come out of it with points.


The majors are remaining double points. In season 1 the majors were fun and got people nice boosts in the standings without ruining the competitive balance of the whole thing. We decided to keep it double for season 2 (despite hinting otherwise).



If at the end of a tournament or the season there are two or more people tied for 1st place there will be a 1 day playoff (and continue to have 1 day playoffs until we have a winner, if it continues into the following tournament the second 9h will be used as the tiebreaker round).

If at the end of the season there are two or more Playerone Podcast hosts tied in the standings there will be a 1 day playoff (and continue to have 1 day playoffs until we have a winner) as bragging rights on the podcast are of utmost importance :D



If you want to know why we did what we did, read on. If you don't care, this can be the end of the post :)


If you are wondering why we are doing it like this (with fractions) the answer is that we were concerned about the leaders getting too far ahead. In season 1 if after two tournaments you came in 1st in both you had 20 points. If you came in 15th in both you had 0 points. So there was a 20 point margin there. We worked on some models where 1st got 20, 2nd got 18, 3rd 16, etc down to 15 getting 1. Under this model after two rounds it would be 40-2, which even though the person has two points it's just far to big of a margin. So working in fractions we were able to get more people on the board without making the margin between first and last too huge. With our season two scoring it will be 24 to 1.... which is bigger than season 1, but not by a lot, and it gets way more people points.

The reason that majors are staying double points is so we don't get crazy fractions. Kurichan and I are both worried that double points can throw off the competitive balance of the league if someone was to sweep it, but at the same time, that's why golf has majors - they are bigger, more intense, more important. But really the major thing was that we didn't want people coming out of them with like 14.25 points or weird shit like that. We are trying to keep it at half points at worst.



Any questions or comments on scoring are welcomed.



Addional rules on tiebreakers and whatnot:

And just some weird rules type stuff I want to get out now just in case we run into problems later...


The schedule I did double check but if the tournament number does not jive with what everyone else is seeing please default to playing the FIRST NINE HOLE daily on the day posted (either tues/wed or fri/sat/sun).


HSG score (the points, not your golf score) don't matter in a tournament. If there is a tie for first place the points don't matter. Whoever is tied for first will play the following day (which is always an off day) and if they are still tied in golf score (not hsg point score) they will play the 2nd 9h the next day. And on and on and on until there is a winner.



At the end of the season if there is a tie in points for first place there will be a tie break just like the scenario listed above. This also applies to if there is a tie in points between any P1P hosts as bragging rights on the show (and them talking about this tournament on the show in general) is a good thing

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:12 PM

I probably only need three.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:00 PM

Ok guys, please read through posts 1 and 3 as I need to ya'll to check my work and make sure you are up on the rules of this season. Post 3 will look familiar to last year but I did change it to everything that's happening this season.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:08 PM

If you are wondering if I hit with you some COMIC SANS in that first post... yes, yes I did.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 04:19 PM

I don't think my iPad can see comic sans, lucky me.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

Looks good :)
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 10:06 PM

Looks good to me as well.

Thumbs up let's do this!
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:39 AM

Looks good Mort, can't wait.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:59 AM

You can move me to the Amateur tourney

I'm ready to roll.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:01 AM

I am really looking forward to watching the tussle in the amateur league, should be tight.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:36 AM

So how many people are getting relegated/promoted at the end of the season?
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:42 AM

So how many people are getting relegated/promoted at the end of the season?



I have no idea. I want to see how it plays out before deciding stuff like that. Seasons after this will have a set number, but I have absolutely no basis to create one now so im taking a wait and see approach.


We're going to have the ability to get overall scores since we're all playing the same tournaments. So it may just be the top 10 scorers from both leagues are pro next year. If you're pro and you don't make that, you'll be demoted.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:55 AM

I have no idea. I want to see how it plays out before deciding stuff like that. Seasons after this will have a set number, but I have absolutely no basis to create one now so im taking a wait and see approach.


We're going to have the ability to get overall scores since we're all playing the same tournaments. So it may just be the top 10 scorers from both leagues are pro next year. If you're pro and you don't make that, you'll be demoted.


The number is going to be whatever you want it be. I don't think you'll ever come to a point and realize what the correct number should be. Go with your heart (preferably before the season starts, so we all know what position we are aiming for/staying away from).

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:13 AM

I think keeping pro the top ten is logical just in the way that we tend to put shit into "top tens" in our mind. So i'm not 100% committing to that number, but you can be fairly certain that's what it's gonna be.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:15 AM

Thankfully this wasn't on the 18h course yesterday. Someone has to finish last in every tournament, right :(
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:35 AM

I haven't touched the game since the end of last season. I hope i'm not rusty.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:40 AM

Sorry for my lack of participation last season, Got addicted to DC Universe. Am at a point now where I can pull myself away for 10 mins now
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:17 AM

Looking forward to this! I've improved quite a bit since the start of S2, so hopefully I can get in a few good tournaments.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:14 PM

I'm ready for season 3, hopefully it won't be my daily dose of rage as often was the case in season 2. I'm going for a zen-like approach with the receptionist this season.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

another fine job mort!

was kind of hoping that promotion/relegation would be in for this season ... avoiding the drop will be fun anyway =)

good luck all
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:53 AM

FYI to Tygor and thekranz-- I sent you both friend requests as you're the only two I'm lacking on my friends list from the pro league.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:28 AM

So.... the season has started?
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:16 AM

Finally it has started!


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:14 AM

Is it tuesday already? damn.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:15 AM

I'll dust off and charge up my Vita. I haven't had a chance to play for well over a month.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:15 AM

Bah...+3 today. Not good. all over the course...couldn't putt.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

I'm really hoping I won't be too rusty after the off-season.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

I fucking hate that hole where you need to get your tee shot between the arches...
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:49 AM

I fucking hate that hole where you need to get your tee shot between the arches...


Go around.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Started the new season with a -7, so giving everyone something to shoot at. Bogey on 8 (in the sand twice) and the rest birdies. The +1 tree rule doesn't really come into play too much after the first hole, so have at 'er :)
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

+2 today, damn I felt rusty.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM

+2 today, damn I felt rusty.


Me too, I managed +1 today. Played safe and missed some easy putts.

It's good to be back playing though, good luck to you all.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:27 PM

-2 today missed an easy par putt and had 2 missed chip in birdies both 0.8 feet :(
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:30 PM

I fucking hate that hole where you need to get your tee shot between the arches...


LOL

You don't.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

-1, but considering I got a triple bogey almost right off the bat, I'm feeling pretty good about it.
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#39 momerath

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:23 PM

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

Damn, "rusty" doesn't even begin to cover it. I'm really regretting not getting in a round or two of practice during our offseason. Posted Image


Having the same regrets, especially with the shortened season!
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