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Episode 298 (07/09/12) - Procedural Generation


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#1 PlayerOneCJ

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

This week! We talk about Final Fantasy Theatrhythm, Spelunky, Spec Ops: The Line, and The Walking Dead Chapter 2 (SPOILERS from 39:10-1:14:45). Plus: Sega announces an HD remake of NiGHTS, Sony buys streaming service Gaikai, eliminating games from history, Club Nintendo rewards, marathon gaming, and more. Join us for the most thrilling hour and forty minutes your ears will hear today.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:00 PM

Title I was hoping for:
Spoiler

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:05 PM

Dude--spoilers!
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

If I may defend Spelunky for a second.

The appeal of the game and of all but the most hardcore roguelikes is that they require you to be resourceful and think on your feet. In a game with more elegant level design, there's usually a way that the developers intended you to do things. The puzzle has a correct solution, in other words. In Spelunky, you're given a number of tools, some of which have uses that are not immediately apparent, and thrown into situations where it doesn't really matter how you survive, as long as you do, and the best solution is the one that depletes the least amount of resources. You can throw rocks in the path of arrow traps, for instance, to set them off without getting hurt. Doing so isn't the solution to anything, it's just a thing that happens on account of how arrow traps work. There's UFOs in later stages that shoot lasers at you that destroy the terrain, and you can exploit this to make them dig tunnels for you.

The fact that it's different every time means you can't just figure out the best strategy for each part then slowly put it all together. You need to figure out each situation as it comes to at you. It's probably for the best not to look at it in terms of progress, because it's theoretically possible to clear the whole game in under 8 minutes without taking shortcuts. Instead, just try to stay in the moment, and learn the mechanics of the world around you.

... and yeah, saying this game "gets hard" is an understatement. It's fucking murder!

Edited by Jave, 09 July 2012 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:27 AM

I think it's a really interesting point, and one of the greatest things about the walking dead game, is that feeling that you want to do the right thing. The idea of fighting to keep humanity, and that feeling of maybe I need to change for my own good that come after certain events. Especially as people react to you.

For me, by the end of the chapter, I had changed into the man of action, I have now embraced survival. That alone makes this game amazing, just that real emotional change that gradualy happened over the course of the two chapters, going from mr nice to mr fuck you all.

No Sly talk?

Edited by TheKurichan, 09 July 2012 - 03:28 AM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:57 PM

I'm surprised CJ didn't want Bubsy 3D erased from gaming history.
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#7 PlayerOneCJ

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

Oh snap, is it too late to change my answer? Wait, I don't think I decided on something, so I pick Bubsy 3D!
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:07 PM

As someone who hasn't played the Walking Dead games (or read the comic or watched the show) I LOVED the spoiler-cast. It was like you guys were talking in another language but still enjoyable nonetheless. Especially when it was about eating people.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

As someone who hasn't played the Walking Dead games (or read the comic or watched the show) I LOVED the spoiler-cast. It was like you guys were talking in another language but still enjoyable nonetheless. Especially when it was about eating people.


Wenny, I didn't play them, but I do go through them using YouTube playthroughs. I enjoy them for their stories and YouTube can give that to you.

P.s. I haven't seen the show or read the comic but that's not important to the game.

It was the first episode spoiler cast that got me to go find the game in the first place so I see what you mean
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