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#81 famousmortimer

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:44 PM

It's already been reported by kotaku, im just letting ya'll know it's true (according to a friend at sony).  Gaf is already acting as if its true.  There's outrage but not as much as I expected.  I feel like im more pissed than the median at gaf is.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:47 AM

I've always believed that Xbox online is more effective BECAUSE they charged for it.  Not saying it makes sense but I believe that people think if you pay for something it's better than if you get something for free. And if your competition is charging for it, you might as well get a piece of it.  It's not like Microsoft won't charge for it this upcoming generation.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:49 AM

Unfortunately Sony wasn't competing for my attention with Microsoft. They were competing with PC.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:52 AM

Sony has just unexcited me. Thanks Sony, I am no longer erect.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:48 AM

I got the feeling that the PSWorld stuff isn't necessarily mandatory for online gaming, but it's mandatory for greater functionality.

 

 

Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus.

 

In other words: Basic online play + messages and PS store = free; voice, video, party chat, PS+ features and phone + tablet support = not free.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

So, um, online play is going to be behind a paywall on the ps4.   

 

Doesn't affect me in-so-much-as that I would have PS+ (or World of Playstation....) anyway, but it's still a shitty move that deserves to be called a shitty move.

 

 

I got the feeling that the PSWorld stuff isn't necessarily mandatory for online gaming, but it's mandatory for greater functionality.

 

 

 

In other words: Basic online play + messages and PS store = free; voice, video, party chat, PS+ features and phone + tablet support = not free.

 

 

Maybe my brain is misfiring, but I swear this was leaked/speculated over a year ago, and that was pretty much what was said then.  Basically PS+ is expanding, but the main stuff (like free online play) remains.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

Anybody get a free $10 PSN voucher?  nice for Sony to give back to their fans and pull them in for the PS4


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:19 AM

https://twitter.com/...125321291104256

 

I'm calling it, the 5 PS4 games announced tonight:

 

1. GoW4

2. KZ4

3. FFvs

4. MGS5/MGS:GZ Next-Gen exclusive

5.New Uncharted


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:55 AM

As long as actual online play is free, they can charge all they want for the shit I'll never use.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:07 AM

I dunno, it may just be my hopes, but from that tweet I'm looking more for a totally new game from Santa Monica. I also think God of War is pretty done in, though. Kratos has been so angry, so long.

 

So angry.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:53 AM

At this point PS+ is so much more of a value than Xbox Live they can go ahead and put online play behind the PS+ paywall too and I'd be OK w/it. Honestly I don't play online much anyway, so whatever.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:12 AM

Calling PS+ a "paywall" instead of an incentive service is already depressing.  


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

It wasn't conjecture, guys.  I talked to a dude in Sony.  Online play is behind the World of Playstation (not Playstation World like kotaku called it) paywall.

 

 

Like most of you, Im already purchasing that so it won't affect me.  But it does bother me.  


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

For the record, I obviously hope this dude is wrong.  But he usually isn't.   On the plus side KZ4 won't be mock up footage, it's going to be there in playable form.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

I don't play online much, but I can definitely see this annoying the hell out of a lot of people who enjoy multiplayer gaming.

 

As long as they don't decide to raise the price of PS+ or WoP or whatever they're calling it now, it won't really affect me other than making me shake my head in disappointment.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

Since I get all my gaming news from this forum, I'm still not sure what all the fuss is about. What are the facts that have been revealed?


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Pete, you are singlehandedly crushing all of my enthusiasm.  The word "Killzone" is a boner killer all on its own.
 
 

Since I get all my gaming news from this forum, I'm still not sure what all the fuss is about. What are the facts that have been revealed?

 
 
Here are all the facts:
  • It will be a Playstation product
 
 
 
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

So I wonder if World of PlayStation is a separate subscription service from Plus? That would be kind of a non-starter for me, but then again I rarely play online multiplayer... a Plus price hike would suck, though (not that it isn't good value at the moment, but let's keep it that way).

 

As for Killzone 4, I don't know how I feel. I really enjoyed KZ2 and overall I liked KZ3 (though IMO it was a mixed bag).


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:31 PM

No, ps+ is being rolled into WOP.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

Also "nothing is set in stone" is what my friend just told me.  So, fingers crossed.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

Any live chat type deal going on here for this?  Going to stream the conference to my tablet and use PC monitor for second screen audience participation psychosis.  

 

Last minute predictions:

 

01.  $429 as the "widely available" main SKU.  That is available to the extent that there are not any manufacturing hiccups.  Maybe  higher priced model with way more local storage and a year of PS+ built in, but having learned from PS3's start, it will not be the focus of marketing.

 

02.  Killzone 4 and inFamous 3 are launch titles.  Battlefield 4 is a launch title, though obviously not exclusive.

 

03.  No mention of any GTA V port.  The game is still PS3/360 until a PC version eventually gets announced, which will be the baseline for the port to the two new systems.  Take 2 is not going to want to create a fence sitting situation where people hold off on getting the PS3/360 versions.

 

04  Gaikai / PlayStation Cloud will handle backwards compatibility.  Is a perk of PS+ since there obviously will not be as many PS4 games to offer as "free" until a bit into the life of the system.

 

05.  Tech demos from Naughty Dog (other team not working on Last of Us), Santa Monica Studio, and Quantic Dream.  I still want to believe that "KARA" turns into a full game after they are done with Beyond.

 

06.  No specific launch date announced until E3.  Maybe the same for launch price, though my guess will just apply there if it isn't announced today.

 

07.  Some type of vague reference to having a framework in place for higher end F2P games.  PlanetSide 2 port is announced.  Maybe work some type of monthly allard allowance for in game items into PS+ membership.  It doesn't actually cost them any money to let you use the texture file that is already sitting on the hard drive.

 

08.  Use of controller screen to emulate Vita-esque functions for cross buy titles.

 

 

This will be an interesting few months.  Blood is in the water with those Wii U sales figures, and it is hard to figure out what is nonsense or logical when it comes to those Xbox 720 rumors.  Good pricing on this + Kinect requirement on 720 = whole new ballgame.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

I don't expect them to have a price or release date tonight but would be pleasantly surprised if they did, obviously.

 


I also don't expect to get a view of the hardware but people think im crazy when i say that so Im probably wrong.

 

 

Games confirmed from a friend include Infamous 3, KZ4, Knack (a new iP), evolution's racer and some sort of huge bungie announcement.

 

 

We'll see...


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

The thing I'm most excited to see, honestly, is what they'll be bringing to the table as far as WoP features are concerned. I've taken such a liking to the concept of the Miiverse on the Wii U that I'd love to see a whole slew of similar functionality outlined for the PS4.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

Me too, and see it cross over with tablets and the vita.  That would be huge for me.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

I think it's fair to assume we're going to get a look at a prototype console design and a showcase of some games.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:11 PM


Here are all the facts:

  • It will be a Playstation product

Then I AM PISSED!


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

edit - GameTrailers seems solid for a stream


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

DualShock 4 looks slightly different than leaked picture and looks much more professional, imagine that. And there is a share button!


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

Oh man, you can watch your friends play games with that streaming technology (I assume if they turn it on). That's kinda crazy cool.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

8GB memory is a genuine surprise.  I didn't figure they would go over 4GB for something with a focused architecture.  I wonder what this means for MSRP...


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

Aaaaanddddd, there goes that  Wii U capability....


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

Way to get me wet for Gran Turismo, just to have the game turn out to be Drive Club. Dicks.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

Ugh. It's that grandpa demo from the PS2, and all this hippie hype bullshit... Ugh.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

Yeah honestly not that impressed.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

Media Molecule abandoned LBP to make this shit?
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

Half of the conference is good.  The other half should have been at GDC.


Edited by Fahrenhype, 20 February 2013 - 06:28 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

oh my god, a capcom developed GOW game?


Edited by Indy aka Rex, 20 February 2013 - 06:29 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:34 PM

So what exactly does "remote play" mean when it comes to Vita/PS4? Doesn't sound quite like Nintendo's gamepad situation.


(ALthough I see via mort that Michael Pachter says I don't care anyway... but that's OK, because as per Arthur Gies I'm a shitty person).


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:34 PM

So what exactly does "remote play" mean when it comes to Vita/PS4? 

 

Exactly what it was on PS3... Except, better.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

This got really boring after the KZ Shadowfall demonstration, but if they can match a logical price to the hardware potential I will get this way, way earlier than I got a PS3.  I wonder how much we'll have to wait until E3 to find out.


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